tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post6759826795254026071..comments2023-07-20T03:54:13.889-04:00Comments on A contrarian world: Devyani Khobragade: A life in privilege, corruption and feudalism Athenaeumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06662860639414150880noreply@blogger.comBlogger194125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-62456126653950974882019-11-25T03:37:51.552-05:002019-11-25T03:37:51.552-05:00At present, the maid was released and is on bail. ...At present, the maid was released and is on bail. It means you'll have to put up with the maid's loan. At the close of the day, a superior maid influences good behavior in your kid. You are curious to know more about <a href="https://cs.byu.edu/job-posting/maid-hunting-why-tap-agency" rel="nofollow"><b>filipino maid</b></a>, discover here.angelenaalessandrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05962004822510113254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-17438225641853304142014-04-25T16:51:14.954-04:002014-04-25T16:51:14.954-04:00I am surprised to see lot of comments praising thi...I am surprised to see lot of comments praising this article... Every country has it's own strengths and weaknesses. Overall, it is a dumb, one sided, mixed-up (reservation, Modi) analysis of the case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-8153588552352265112014-03-25T12:06:01.028-04:002014-03-25T12:06:01.028-04:00Shed some light on MATA syndrome. 'More Americ...Shed some light on MATA syndrome. 'More American than Americans'. This affects many NRI s including Bharara. Secondly what is your opinion about all the illegal acivities done by US embassy & its staff here- they are involved in visa & tax fraud,evade taxes on liqours,run club without proper permission,wives do jobs when they are not allowed to..<br /> One more thing Is there any role christian missionaries in this whole episode because maid is christian & undue haste was shown by US govt. to "EVACUATE" her family from India.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04317450098314994659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-18600037323240730442014-03-19T00:55:24.480-04:002014-03-19T00:55:24.480-04:00One of the best blog posts I've read in a long...One of the best blog posts I've read in a long time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-18408251022544728342014-02-06T06:59:47.773-05:002014-02-06T06:59:47.773-05:00Excellent article... will be a reality check for m...Excellent article... will be a reality check for many. Also shows how Indian Media is... but a shorter version without the Modi part would help. THAT link I will share, so the debate stays simpler. BHAVINhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09903031560089886012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-29803496141232497382014-02-05T02:10:15.210-05:002014-02-05T02:10:15.210-05:00Wasnt it DKs father who raised the caste issue by ...Wasnt it DKs father who raised the caste issue by asking the people to shun their casteist mindset and back his daughter? His political aspersions and inkling are all too wellknown. He just wants too encash Dalit card for poltical mileage... elections being round the corner has only helped to vitiate the matters. Diplomatic tit for tats or equitable treatment to foreign diplomats are all acceptable to me but take this case to its logical end.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-1614171144236152742014-01-26T00:32:28.578-05:002014-01-26T00:32:28.578-05:00Good write-up. But why drag Modi here?Good write-up. But why drag Modi here?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-15938351744079862392014-01-23T19:51:58.243-05:002014-01-23T19:51:58.243-05:00Indeed a fantastic article with due clarity. Smt. ...Indeed a fantastic article with due clarity. Smt. Devyani disclosed an annual income of Rs.1.8 Lakhs in her application for securing a Flat in Adarsh and remitted Rs.1.10 Crore in the year and the father daughter duo refused to disclose it' source and the Adarsh Judicial Panel rightly reported it. She has also disclosed about her 11 properties in different States including a 5 Acre Plot in Kochi worth 16 Lakhs!!! (a sensational land deal of her husband with Pakistani connections); and most of them are claimed to be presented by her 'poor father'!!! . These are public documents that anybody can procure. She has indeed flouted the local US laws as well and answerable for it as nobody is above law. But where were those champions of liberty and the Apostles of Diplomacy when Dr. Abdul Kalam, Kamalhasan and Shahrukh Khan were harassed to the maximum only to protect the US ego. Khobragade' are, if exposed on the basis of their declarations alone, can be charged for grave offences under Indian Law. Above all, ‘the misconduct’ by attending a political function organised by Republican Party of India with her loving father who announced his political aspirations on her homecoming!!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11250121535764390278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-31351496807882968152014-01-21T19:50:12.205-05:002014-01-21T19:50:12.205-05:00Excellent article. For those who are insisting tha...Excellent article. For those who are insisting that her past in India is unrelated to the present case in Manhattan, I would say that her present is a direct continuity of her past. Except that her sense of entitlement is well served only uder the ultra corrupt Indian government with privileges looted by her dad from more needy Indians. And those who point her being Dalit has no relevant to the case: it is those defending on her behalf who invoked her D card - her dad, Mayawati, ToI infomericals and Suchitra Vijayan - to nsme a few. It does not take only Dalit to be a corrupt individual, but corruption by Dalits is legally supported in the constitution. Hence the brazen attitude of most Dalits in public life. Just ask the Khobragade dad - he will threaten to sue you if you asked him on how he got those Adharsh flats.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09108421830492231082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-49952903137662011092014-01-21T07:36:59.992-05:002014-01-21T07:36:59.992-05:00Hi!
Please understand that the reservation syste...Hi! <br /><br />Please understand that the reservation system is not a poverty alleviation system. It is a policy to make sure that dalits get represented in a system that has been and is still hugely unfair to them. She is corrupt and what she did was completely unfair and wrong. But do not club it with her being Dalit and reaping benefits of reservation. sunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13285589528501732597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-75347644744412423712014-01-18T08:28:27.415-05:002014-01-18T08:28:27.415-05:00Excellent article. U have an open eye.Excellent article. U have an open eye.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-50676077660504838962014-01-18T04:04:07.758-05:002014-01-18T04:04:07.758-05:00I don't no who is the Author of this saga, the...I don't no who is the Author of this saga, the writer thinks Indians are fools and do not know about America, for that matter the writer should declare his or her full name so that we could understand the tirade they are embarking on India and its people. The Indians in America think they are the best and yes they are the Cream of India and have fabulous family background. The majority of NRI's in America studied in India's Government funded institutions like IIT's, IIM's to name some. The college fees in these institutions is very little and nominal as compared to American Institutions. This decision to charge very less is done through the policy of Subsidy, so that these students should work in India or for the government of India after graduation. Only the people with humble background work in Indian government as they cannot afford to go to America for Higher studies or to work there. The Grudge which I'am about to state is of that Indian who lives in countryside (Villages) pay every imaginable taxes imposed on them to fund the studies of these Indians who work in America as DOCTORS, ENGINEERS to highlight the most. Even the people of Indian Origin still fall back to Indian Government when they face any crisis in America. But why they face crisis? Well the so called Americans still practice "THE WHITE MEN BURDEN" in many forms be it Black Americans or other major Races. All these things we in India now know, Americans are very weak in terms of facing hardships, that's why their Major Corporates are looking for the Talented people around the world who are ready to work on Less salary in comparison to what is given to the average AMERICAN. If you really want to Understand what is going on in American society, everyone should watch this American movie CRASH 2004 directed by Paul Haggis (Please do not confuse with same name movie of 1996 which is very bizarre and erotic) Thanks for reading, Good Luck and GOD BLESS AMERICA... Rohit Kumarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-73683140555047335072014-01-18T03:48:08.269-05:002014-01-18T03:48:08.269-05:00I think there are a couple of aspects here all int...I think there are a couple of aspects here all intertwined:<br />1. Diplomacy is about reciprocity. Even if the IAS officer was guilty, how the case was treated by US reflects on the power equation with India and India must ensure the power balance is maintained.<br />2. Minimum wages could be a grey area. Is it only her or is it a illegal but tacitly ignored common practice. Sometimes its hard or unjust to pinpoint guilt when everyone else is also doing it especially if it's an economic rounabout.<br />3. Was the maid il treated. If the maid was illtreated then the harshest of possible punishment should be applied by either country.<br />4. Was the maids family persecuted by Indian authorities. Absolute shame on them and the IAS fraternity if this is truegirish kohlihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08682633437458248936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-66047650560026663682014-01-18T03:06:04.860-05:002014-01-18T03:06:04.860-05:00Reservation just on name and not on need basis wil...Reservation just on name and not on need basis will always lead to such imbalances. The so called oppressed have become oppressors of their own kind. A lot of hue and cry has been made by Khobragade's about their dalit origins but we have still not came to know about the caste and origins of maid. <br />Why cant the diplomats hire maid in the country where they are posted? Believe me you can hire cleaning and housekeeping services in any country at pretty low rates.Prashanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14244635287070914092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-60514373581576329192014-01-18T02:51:33.827-05:002014-01-18T02:51:33.827-05:00you are totally wrong naive and misguided on this!...you are totally wrong naive and misguided on this! reservation system in India, and this issue are two disparate threads that need not be muddled together! very disappointing..<br />jyotihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06107763767039283930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-5790106340313815912014-01-17T23:45:25.457-05:002014-01-17T23:45:25.457-05:00Simply great!!
"Devyani Khobragade: Shoma ...Simply great!! <br /><br /><br />"Devyani Khobragade: Shoma Chaudhury" are all pseudo feminists. <br /><br />They do not deserve to be in the limelight. <br /><br />God saved Sangeetha!!my spacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10858696421703464419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-85644619850430297162014-01-17T17:23:40.704-05:002014-01-17T17:23:40.704-05:00very true...at last an article about an issue that...very true...at last an article about an issue that was bugging me for daysAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14627424583049616098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-74266028879715386312014-01-17T16:35:16.731-05:002014-01-17T16:35:16.731-05:00In my personal opinion, the article is trying to t...In my personal opinion, the article is trying to tackle few things. A lot of bloggers/writers do that often, they try to paint a wholistic picture of a person with things that may or may not be relevant to a specific situation. Like the article above, it is trying to paint a picture of Devyani as an individual in relation to her past, present and the maid case. <br />Humans have a tenedency to get emotional and jump to conclusions very quickly and thats normal. However, if you try to take few of the key points mentioned above in each of their own context, then they could hold their own ground. For example - Corruption - Her involvement in Indian corruption affairs has nothing to do with the whole case, however on its own, her background is questionable and as lawyers say "if they are doing it now they must have done it before". <br />I am not trying to defend anyone here, but each country has their own protocols, cops sometimes make hasty decisions, you can find tons of stupid youtube videos where cops are shooting or using force where its not required and something similar could have happened in her arrest too. Try to place yourself as a 3rd person watching this whole incidence, Indian bureaucrat dealing with American Cops, being at a very reputable/high office chair I could see her resisting the arrest or mouthing off, which is very normal in a situation like this. One thing leading to another and cops end up doing something they were not suppose to. <br />As for the whole Dalit vs Hindu concern, its been going on for a long time. It is an issue that is not quantifiable, you cannot judge as to who deserves it and who doesnt. I think the whole religion/cast/class thing is overrated and people need to get over themselves. Blacks were slaves throughout the world but are they part of some reservation system ? - No. They might get support from their own community but thats about it. Long story short, this discussion will never end unless people realize that a Doctor trying to save someone's life should become a doctor based on the merits not on what cast/class of society they belong to. You need tax rebate, discount in basic education ? you should get it. Anyone who cannot support their kids to get basic necessaties deserves it and expects it from the society. But if you are expecting to become a doctor, an engineer, or CEO of a company, earn it. <br />Just reinforcing that these my personal opinions, I am not trying to condone any society, religion or cult. Thank you.Sid Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-21941797035954390522014-01-17T15:45:00.476-05:002014-01-17T15:45:00.476-05:00Although it was an interesting read, I felt the au...Although it was an interesting read, I felt the author diverted the focus on the issue at hand. It is evident from the comments above and I am going to do the same because the tone in which it was said really bothers me.<br /><br />Her being dalit has no relevance to what is happening in the US. I don't think people in Washington particularly care what caste Ms. DK belongs to. Referring to his statement "Reaping the benefits of Dalit", Being an IAS officer (her father) comes with benefits and privileges, Mr. author somehow suggests that they should have forfeited those benefits because they belong to the lower caste. That's outright nonsense.<br /><br />The reservation system is purely based on the fact that a community which was oppressed for centuries (hundreds of generations) needs some time to recuperate. Its like you keep a 6 ft tall man in 4x4 cage for 10 years and then release him he is not going to stand straight right-away. He is going to have a hump and it will take some years of therapy before he walks straight. Reservation is the therapy that we as a society provide to these oppressed classes. Its been only 60 years hardly two at-most three generations. And I don't think Ms. DK's kids got admitted into US schools under reservation. So lets give it some time.<br /><br />What we need to be discussing is that having made the most out of the therapy provided to her. She should not be putting another person into a cage. I agree that's wrong and if guilty should be punished.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-37305609038276484482014-01-17T14:48:15.575-05:002014-01-17T14:48:15.575-05:00How the reservation system is related to Devyani&#...How the reservation system is related to Devyani's case? Would that be okay if Devyani is from upper caste and the rest of the things took the same course as happened now? This author seems to be okay with the IFS officials exploiting the maids as long as they belong to upper caste. In fact that is what happening for thousands of years. Surprisingly, Devyaini was arrested, but not Neena Malhotra for similar case. Either it is USA or India, if you belong to lower race or caste the higher your position, the loner you get because you will see more and more whiter race or upper caste. You need to be more aggressive to survive. Who knows, if Devyani belonged to upper caste, probably she might not have been arrested by using her upper caste NY Indian connections. I am not saying what Devyani has done is right. But she belongs to and reflects the group that wants to change its position from being exploited to the exploiter! May be by doing that she wants to forget that her family hailed from that background that her maid belongs now!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-61144286566231924552014-01-17T14:25:59.492-05:002014-01-17T14:25:59.492-05:00Writer of the article seems to be some casteist wi...Writer of the article seems to be some casteist with no sensitivity about the reservation. He is lost in his own ideas and trying to relate anything to just show that reservation is wrong. Does this author has any idea about what hardships and social oppression a person receives from the so called upper caste gets. Writing fancy words does not make you a writer, you are just showing your frustration. Think more socially. H. M. Dixitnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-86021588613084431982014-01-17T13:50:02.460-05:002014-01-17T13:50:02.460-05:00Conclusion by reading the article and comments: Ri...Conclusion by reading the article and comments: Rich corrupt dalits are hated more than rich corrupt non-dalits. People can't just stand a successful dalits in good way or bad way. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-58113953630642633352014-01-17T13:02:55.584-05:002014-01-17T13:02:55.584-05:00Extremely confused article. Ok, the man lives in t...Extremely confused article. Ok, the man lives in the US, is looking for US citizenship or has one, so has to profess that we also adhere to the US''s world view. One of the chips on his shoulder seems to be the fact that he was ''exploited'''on a H1B Visa..well, what stopped him from leaving? Clearly, the dollars. He is very short sighted when he says it Indians who exploit...what price the cheap labour in SE Asia, India, Bangladesh, Pakistan etc. that cater to ''civilised'' Westerners who defend ''human rights?'' These people are ok with paying a pittance so that they can get manufactured goods at a fraction of the cost from countries that have no minimum wage laws. Please, Indians settled in the US..it may suit you to start seeing everything through a prism that endears you to the hand that feeds you but this rubbish rant against bureaucracy and privileged etc is better directed at the country of your adoption. They are the PhDs in the subject.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-52535714678737174572014-01-17T12:51:58.644-05:002014-01-17T12:51:58.644-05:00First of all the author is completely silent on th...First of all the author is completely silent on the demand of Maid of 10k settlement offer which was nothing but extortion attempt and how swiftly family of maid was shifted to US courtesy US Diplomat at India sponsored by US as family of trafficking just before entire episode took place.As regards NaMo author is completely ignores the what took place in Delhi in 1984 and also seems that either not aware of the past history of Gujarat during the rule of Congress in 1970 and 1980 when riots were norm of the day. What Congress has done in Gujarat prior to NaMo is matter of record which is readily available on net but author of article seems having blind faith in Congress who is facing corruption in CWG 2G and Coalgate but no whisper about the same shows sick mentality to bash NaMo and with sole mission of finding fault about NaMo ignoring the deeds of Congress. Why no whisper about no actions against Ex CM of Maharashtra despite RaGa outburst against corruption? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2383732783190307682.post-60628266134114974512014-01-17T12:29:01.023-05:002014-01-17T12:29:01.023-05:00Very good and interesting article. Landed here acc...Very good and interesting article. Landed here accidentally, but enjoyed reading for a long time. Yes, you have pointed out many faults and fault lines in both India and US. But what is interesting is that how both countries (the bureaucrats) have tried to capitalise on the "case" and bring in elements which help them further their own interests.Rana Sinhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08957385866727883675noreply@blogger.com